Stevenage man left with £1k bill after ‘ice’ smashes into car from the sky

29/ 10/ 2021 a las 5:58 | Publicado en Casuística, Daños, Hielo azul, Hielo del fuselaje, Materiales | Comentarios desactivados en Stevenage man left with £1k bill after ‘ice’ smashes into car from the sky

Jaimie Kay 29/10/2021. A Stevenage man was left in «complete shock» after what he believes to be a «chunk of ice» fell onto his car whilst he was driving next to Stansted Airport.

Murray Sale, from Stevenage, was driving on a job from Chelmsford to Stevenage at 3.15pm on Tuesday, September 14 when something struck the bonnet of his car.

There were no adverse weather conditions other than a bit of rain and the roads were clear, but all of a sudden he heard a huge crash.

Something had hit the bonnet of his new Audi A5 coupe with a great deal of force. That something, according to Murray, was a chunk of ice.

He feared that if another second had passed and it had instead collided with his windscreen, the situation could have been a lot worse.

He said: «My first thought was someone has dropped something on me from a bridge.
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“I was just in complete shock. I broke, looked around to see what had happened.»

It was at this point Murray noticed the dent in his bonnet, along with the «ice». He clocked that Stansted Airport was directly next to him.

He then started to investigate the possibility of ice falling from an overhead plane which, although rare, can happen.

«I managed to get a hold of the National Airport Watch and the lady said it is not that uncommon,» he said.

Mr Sale will require a new bonnet due to the damage caused

Murray’s bonnet was left damaged and he was quoted over £1,000 to replace the bonnet of his car.

He is looking for compensation for the incident, not just for the sake of finance but also because the car holds a lot of sentimental value to him.

He was given the money for the car after his late dad’s passing.

He said: “I have always had company cars, the last car I bought was on a lease deal.

«This time around my inheritance came through and bought a car which is my own, and there is a great deal of sentimental value in it.”

Murray hopes that his story will bring in more awareness of such incidents, and says he will continue to fight for compensation.

He said: “At the end of the day, I just want compensating to get my car fixed and someone has to take responsibility.

“I don’t want to become the victim, I don’t see why I should be the fall guy.”

According to the Civil Aviation Authority(CAA), icefalls are relatively rare. In 2017 there were 2.5 million flights in the UK airspace, with only seven icefall events reported to the CAA.

Some icefalls may occur because ice that has naturally formed on an aircraft at higher altitudes breaks off as it descends into warmer air.

However, it isn’t always planes that cause the issue. There is a phenomenon called megacryometeors which involves fallen ice that dates back to before aircraft even existed.

Scientists are conducting ongoing research into how this happens after unexplained chunks of ice began falling in Spain in the year 2000.

London Stansted Airport issued a statement regarding Murray’s situation, with a spokesperson for the airport saying: “We were contacted by Mr Sale on September 16 to report he believed his car had been struck by some ice while driving on the A120 when passing near Stansted Airport on September 14.

“Based on the time and location details of the incident provided by Mr Sale in his police witness statement we were able to carry out an investigation into any aircraft activity at the time.

«While there were two arriving aircraft within a five-minute window of the time stated by Mr Sale, these were still nearly one mile away from where it was reported the incident took place, so the investigation was unable to corroborate the assertion that this related to any aircraft operating into Stansted.

«We have also not received any reports of any ice falls or aircraft faults from our airlines.

“We confirmed the outcome of our investigation with Mr Sale and referred him to the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) AA as per the standard procedure in such cases.

“The CAA provides more information on its role in such cases and why ice falls, which are extremely rare and may not even relate to aviation, could occur.”

Fuente: Hertfordshire Mercury

Locals terrified after blocks of frozen poo ‘fell from the sky out of nowhere’ and fear it ‘could have killed someone’

7/ 06/ 2021 a las 5:40 | Publicado en Casuística, Hielo azul | Comentarios desactivados en Locals terrified after blocks of frozen poo ‘fell from the sky out of nowhere’ and fear it ‘could have killed someone’

Jon Lockett
9:48, 10 Jun 2021 Updated: 10:26, 10 Jun 2021

TERRIFIED locals have told how they feared the worst after a huge block of frozen POO «fell from the sky».

Pals Lisa Boyd and Louise Browne dashed from their homes on Monday night after hearing a huge thud outside.

Lisa said : «I thought someone had crashed their scooter outside, there was a big whirring noise and huge thud so I looked out the window and there was just this lump of ice on the floor.

«We were just thankful no one was walking past and nobody got hit by it because it could’ve killed someone.»

Neighbour Louise told The Portsmouth News: «We just getting into bed and we thought someone was chucking gravel stones at our window.

«I would say it was about half a metre square – it was big.»

The pooberg crash-landed in Eagle Avenue, Waterlooville, near Portsmouth, bringing families rushing into the street.

Residents are convinced that the ice came from a plane’s loo flying 35,000ft overhead as it revealed an unpleasant surprise as it melted.

A terrible pong filled the air and when they looked closer, they could see human faeces and toilet paper.

Lisa revealed: «Where the ice had melted, there were faeces on the path.

«I bagged it up because it was slap bang in the middle of the footpath.»

The Civil Aviation Authority claims all lavatory waste is stored within the aircraft and collected after landing by special vehicles during the preparation for the next flight.

«Ice falls from aircraft are considered to be rare in UK airspace, and can be a result of meteorological phenomena,» it said.

«We receive around 10 reports of ice falls per year and while we are unable to investigate the origin of an ice fall, we do record reports of this nature.

«While the authority will record suspected ice falls, we are unable to investigate their potential origins regarding specific flights.

«The CAA has no liability for damage which may be caused by an ice fall.»

Waterlooville is not far from Southampton Airport and the international flight paths into Gatwick and Heathrow.

In October 2017 a family’s house in Wiltshire shook when a passing plane poo-bombed them from 20,000 feet.

The aircraft, thought to be a Jumbo Jet dumping waste from its toilets high overhead, sent ‘ice bombs’ raining down on the house in Cricklade.

In June 2017 Dan Wells, 45, rushed outside to find a plane’s poobomb had smashed a hole nearly two-feet wide in his garage roof.

It dropped from the toilets of a plane flying 15,000ft over his home in Denmead, near Portsmouth, Hants.

The ice smashed several tiles when it punched a hole in the garage roof and shattered a drainpipe.

But Daniel said he couldn’t sue for damages unless he or his insurers could discover which airline was responsible for the poo-bombing.

Then in 2015 a retired couple in Wiltshire dived for cover after their house was poo-bombed by a Jumbo Jet flying overhead.

Fuente: The Sun

Airlines to be fined Rs 50,000 for ‘poop drop’

2/ 09/ 2018 a las 6:19 | Publicado en Hielo azul, Hielo del fuselaje | Comentarios desactivados en Airlines to be fined Rs 50,000 for ‘poop drop’

Saurabh Sinha | TNN | Sep 2, 2018, 03:52 IST

NEW DELHI: Drop poop from flying planes and pay Rs 50,000 as fine [aprox. 604 euros]. The Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) has issued this directive to all airlines and other players operating aircraft to, from and within India to comply with an order of the National Green Tribunal (NGT). However, in the same breath, the aviation regulator said it is impossible for flying aircraft to dump excreta and moved the green court to review its order due to which this directive had to be issued. Continue Reading Airlines to be fined Rs 50,000 for ‘poop drop’…

Researcher suggests ‘poopsicle’ theory for B.C. woman hit by falling feces

9/ 05/ 2018 a las 4:36 | Publicado en Casuística, Hielo azul | Comentarios desactivados en Researcher suggests ‘poopsicle’ theory for B.C. woman hit by falling feces

Rob Young, with UBCO, says frozen feces could have formed on the outside of the plane

Carli BerryJun. 1, 2018 12:26 p.m. A “poopsicle” forming on a plane, then melting as the plane reached a lower altitude is one researcher’s suggestion on why a Kelowna woman was hit by, what she believes to be, falling feces a few weeks ago.

Kelowna resident Susan Allan said she was in her car with her son in the early afternoon of May 9. She was stopped at the street lights on Spall Road and Bernard Avenue when an unwelcome deluge covered her car and came through the open sunroof.

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‘Meteor’ that caused buzz turns out to be human waste discarded by airplane

20/ 01/ 2018 a las 6:00 | Publicado en Casuística, Hielo azul | Comentarios desactivados en ‘Meteor’ that caused buzz turns out to be human waste discarded by airplane

Landed in Gurgaon village after falling out of aircraft; scientists were called in

Written by Sakshi Dayal | Gurgaon | Updated: January 21, 2018 1:34 pm

Human waste discarded mid-air by a passing aircraft led to some confusion — and comedy — at Gurgaon’s Fazilpur Badli village on Saturday. As the human waste landed in a field with a thud, many residents mistook it for a meteor and claimed it came “shooting out of the sky”. Not long after, a team of scientists rushed to the spot — only to confirm that it was, in fact, faeces.

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Mystery: Ice falls through Georgia home

2/ 02/ 2017 a las 8:10 | Publicado en Casuística, Daños, Hielo azul, Materiales | Comentarios desactivados en Mystery: Ice falls through Georgia home

By: George Franco. Posted:Feb 02 2017 06:42PM EST

GWINNETT COUNTY, Ga. – A Grayson family said it’s a wonder no one was hurt or worse when a big piece of ice fell from the sky Tuesday morning.

The big chunk of frozen water fell around 7:45 a.m., leaving a big hole in the roof of the Grayson home of the Whitaker family. Continue Reading Mystery: Ice falls through Georgia home…

Woman, 60, escapes death after ‘chunk of ice containing human excrement and urine fell from plane flying overhead’

7/ 01/ 2017 a las 4:53 | Publicado en Casuística, Daños, Hielo azul, Materiales, Personales | Comentarios desactivados en Woman, 60, escapes death after ‘chunk of ice containing human excrement and urine fell from plane flying overhead’

By Chris Kitching for MailOnline

Published: 16:52 GMT, 7 January 2016 | Updated: 16:52 GMT, 7 January 2016

A 60-year-old woman narrowly escaped death when a chunk of ice mysteriously fell from the sky over a village in India – and scientists say it may have come from a plane’s toilet.

Scientists say they have two theories about where the football-sized piece of ice originated and they haven’t ruled out the possibility it contained human excrement and urine that leaked from an aircraft holding tank and froze as it fell towards earth.

The bizarre incident left the woman, identified by media as Rajrani Gaud, with a shoulder injury, but those who live in the village of Aamkhoh said her injuries could have been far worse.

Witnesses claimed she survived the incident because the ice crashed onto a home’s terrace before hitting her, the Times of India reported.

Deepak Jain, a local schoolteacher, said: ‘I was only 25ft away from the spot where the monster came crashing down.

‘Children and villagers witnessed the fall and then heard screams. We ran towards Rajrani’s house and referred her to hospital.

‘The ice ball hit the roof first. Otherwise it would have smashed her skull.’

The incident occurred in India’s Sagar district, about 300 miles south of Delhi, on 17 December but wasn’t reported until today.

It could have been so-called blue ice, sewage that has leaked from an aircraft and frozen at a high altitude, or a megacryometeor, the Times of India reported.

India’s civil aviation authority chose not to look into the claims, but scientists began their own investigation after word of the incident spread, the newspaper reported.

Reports of ‘blue ice’ falling from a plane occur from time to time, although the US Federal Aviation Administration said the incidents are rare.

It said some lavatory holding tanks contain a blue chemical that is added to deodorize the liquid and break down solid waste. The FAA said: ‘Occasionally, the holding tank or drain tube develops a leak. If this happens at high altitudes, the water will freeze once it hits outside air.

‘However, if blue ice falls from an aircraft, the ice will usually break up and melt before it hits the ground. If the ice doesn’t fall off, it will melt as the airplane descends for landing. Then it usually dissipates into small droplets.’

A plane’s flight crew cannot dump wastewater in flight because the waste valve is located on the exterior of a plane and can only be operated by ground crew, the FAA added.

Fuente: Daily Mail

It’s raining poop! What to do if a plane drops human waste on your house

5/ 01/ 2017 a las 6:11 | Publicado en Casuística, Hielo azul | Comentarios desactivados en It’s raining poop! What to do if a plane drops human waste on your house

Posted 12:44 pm, January 5, 2017, by Heather Holeman

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah – A little splat of bird droppings on one’s vehicle every now and then is nasty, yet completely normal.

But when human feces comes spraying down from the heavens, all normalcy flies out the vehicle’s window.

«It’s disgusting.»  Bethany Bowker lives right below the flight path of Salt Lake International Airport and sees dozens of commercial planes every day.

For the second time in a matter of a few years, her driveway has been the target of falling human fecal matter.

«At first I thought, ‘Wow, some bird really took a dump on my car!'» Bowker told KSL News.

She soon realized the stinky splatter did not come from birds. «This is undeniable,» Bowker said. «I just want it to stop.»

Bowker is one of many who have complained over the years about what the Federal Aviation Administration calls «blue ice» – wastewater from airline toilets that leaks out onto the plane, freezes at high altitudes, then falls when it melts as the plane descends.

The FAA states on its website:  «Many people assume that aircraft lavatories dump overboard when they are flushed; they do not. The aircrew cannot dump the wastewater in flight because the waste valve is located on the exterior of the aircraft and only ground crew can operate valve.»

Either way, blue ice has hit homes all over the world, as one Philadelphia teen experienced in 2015 right in the middle of her «Sweet 16» party.

Karen Bass experienced a similar smelly downpour down under in 2014 and tells The New Zealand Herald, «I’m absolutely disgusted at the moment. The amount of crap everywhere is horrendous.»

In England in 2013, a «frozen lump of wee» went shooting like a meteor through the roof, then straight through the floor of Caroline Guy’s motor home.

She saved the large yellow chunk of ice in her freezer.

«It is just a miracle that neither myself nor my children were in there when it came crashing down. It could have killed someone,» Guy told The Sun.

Aviation authorities say the frozen mass also could have come from a plane’s air conditioning system.

As for the damage, Guy was stuck with the bill since it happened while she was gone and she couldn’t pinpoint a specific airline.

In 2012,  a New York couple enjoying some quality time on their back patio soon found themselves drenched in sludge.

Artie Hughes told CBS New York, «It was oily in substance, blackish-greenish oil. I thought it was hydraulic fluid and then the policeman came down and said ‘No I don’t think so. Looks like something nastier than that.'»

So, what do you do if you’re the victim of blue ice? Call the FAA immediately.

Officials will try to track down the specific aircraft that accidentally dropped the doo.

As for who is responsible for cleaning up the matter, a spokesperson for Salt Lake International Airport says victims should call their city and ask for a hazardous material clean up.

Fuente: KFOR

Woman says aircraft dumped human waste on her property

3/ 01/ 2017 a las 6:15 | Publicado en Casuística, Hielo azul | Comentarios desactivados en Woman says aircraft dumped human waste on her property

By Nicole Vowell   |  Posted Jan 3rd, 2017 @ 10:16pm

WEST JORDAN — While most of us are busy cleaning up snow from our driveways, Bethany Bowker is busy trying to figure out how to clean up a much different kind of mess — human feces.
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Poop falling from skies in New Delhi!! NGT orders inspection

28/ 10/ 2016 a las 7:59 | Publicado en Daños, Hielo azul, Hielo del fuselaje, Materiales, Personales | Comentarios desactivados en Poop falling from skies in New Delhi!! NGT orders inspection

New Delhi, Oct 28, 2016 (PTI)

Imagine human excreta falling on you from airplanes flying above!! A former senior armyman has moved the National Green Tribunal alleging dumping of human waste by aircraft over residential areas near the IGI airport here, which led the green panel to order an inspection of his South Delhi house.

Lt Gen (Retd) Satwant Singh Dahiya has sought criminal proceedings against commercial airlines and levy of hefty fines on them for endangering the health of residents, terming the act as violation of the Swachh Bharat Abhiyan.

Noting the submissions of the petitioner, the green panel directed Central Pollution Control Board (CPCB) to depute a senior environmental engineer to inspect his house and check the existence of human excreta on the walls.

It also asked CPCB that if excreta was found, samples should be collected for analysis and the report placed before the tribunal. A bench headed by NGT Chairperson Justice Swatanter Kumar also issued notices to the Ministries of Environment and Forests and Civil Aviation and CPCB, seeking their replies within two weeks.

Plane toilets store human waste in special tanks. These are normally disposed of by ground crew once the plane lands, but aviation officials acknowledge that lavatory leaks can occur in the air at times. There have been instances, including in India, when people have been injured.

In his petition, Vasant Enclave resident Dahiya has sought creation of a 24-hour helpline for immediate reporting of the incident and a monitoring mechanism to check that no aircraft drops «human soil or excreta» while landing.

«For past more than the week in the early morning, we found that walls and floors of terrace of our house splattered with large patches of excreta dumped by aircraft flying in front of Palam airport at night. This is the second time this has happened. Last time it had occurred in early October when we had spent Rs 50,000 to get the entire exterior resurfaced with fresh paint.

«Diwali is only few days away and being the festive season having recently finished fresh coating of the house exterior at considerable experience to clean up the premises. We are again faced with having our walls completed spattered with waste. We are retired people and cannot afford to have this defacement everyday,» the plea said.

The bench, also comprising U D Salvi, said «we direct senior environmental engineer from CPCB to visit the premises of the applicant and check whether as a matter of fact remnant of human excreta are found on the walls or on terrace floor of the applicant’s building or any building adjacent thereto.

«If the remnants are found, its samples should be collected for analysis in order to confirm its nature and analysis report be placed before the Tribunal on the next date of hearing» on November 25.

Advocate B V Niren, appearing for Civil Aviation Ministry, opposed the argument and said plane toilets stored the waste in special tanks which are normally disposed of by ground crews once the plane lands.

In January this year, a woman in a village near Bhopal suffered injuries when a frozen mass bounced off a nearby building and fractured her shoulder. Aviation experts then believed that the mass could have been either blue ice, a term used to describe sewage leaked form an aircraft lavatory, or a megacryometeor – an extremely large chunk of ice formed under unusual conditions. Similar incidents have been reported from the US and the UK too.

Fuente: Deccan Herald

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